Dan Pink Talks Breaks & DRiVE
Good news: Author Dan Pink has a new book coming out on 12-29-09. Better news: He’s taking an interest in Sabbaticals! That gave me courage enough to invite him to visit BreakAway, and he kindly did, responding:
Glad you liked the Sagmeister post, gladder still you hipped me to your website. It rocks. I think you’re on to something big. (In fact, I write about this trend in my upcoming book.)”
Sagmeister, of course, is the world-famous graphic designer who closes his shop and takes a year off every seven or so—and generated quite a buzz when he preached about it during his TED conference appearance earlier this year.
Mr. Pink may be one of the most in-demand thought leaders of our time, but he still found time to talk about what we’ll soon be reading—and Sabbaticals too. Thanks, Dan!
BA: Your last book, A Whole New Mind, seemed about what the world needs now. Would you say your new book, DRiVE, is more about what individuals need now?
Pink: I actually never thought about it that way, but I think that’s not a bad way to put it. One way to think about it is the last book was about the what of work. This book is more about the why—why we do what we do. But there are a lot of lessons in this for individuals—about how they can find their own motivation, and maybe even set up a context that allows other people find their own motivation.
BA: You describe that it’s time to move beyond the “carrot and stick” approach of work. What some of the new motivators—and can employers provide them?
Pink: We tend to think the way to get better performance out of people is carrots and sticks; we sweeten the reward, or stiffen the punishment. That’s true for some things. But science shows that for creative conceptual tasks, those sorts of motivators don’t work very well, and often have a whole array of collateral consequences. Sure, we need baseline rewards. If people feel they’re not getting paid fairly, then there’s not going to be much motivation. But once you get past that baseline level of compensation, it’s not even about fairness or massive amounts of money. It’s about fair pay. Money ceases to be a motivator, and in fact can be a DE-motivator. So the goal, in many ways, is to take the issue of money off the table.
The real motivators are things like autonomy, mastery and purpose. Autonomy means the ability of people to direct their own lives—to have control over their time, technique, and team. Mastery is the desire to get better at something that matters. As for purpose, that’s serving something larger than ourselves.”